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Sorry, Interactive-Media Professors

October 15th, 2008 by Emily Feldman

CNN.com posted an article on the Obama-McCain debate just nine minutes after the two candidates shook hands. NPR clocked in at twenty minutes.  Dinosaurs compared to CUNY J-school twitters (or is it tweeters?) and New York Times bloggers who had published their reactions, predictions, analyses, and reports, before moderator Bob Schieffer had even introduced the second topic. While many see this as democracy-in-action, I see it as somewhat irresponsible.

To me, instant journalism is sort of like running on a treadmill while eating a sandwich (stay with me). The meal hasn’t even been digested, and if nothing else, the sandwich will certainly distract from the act of running (or vice-versa, but either way the end result is sure to be messy).
Don’t get me wrong; I know that deadlines and timeliness are the essence of journalism, which is fine. But there’s a difference between getting a story out by the next morning’s paper and getting the story out before the event is even done. The latter overwhelms me. Not just as a journalist anticipating a career that might obligate me to do some live blogging and desperate praying that no one finds this post. But also as a consumer of media. Misinformation is one of the largest problems with breaking news.

The most famous example may be 9/11 when reports were changing with each hour that passed. “Accident” became “potential terrorist attack in New York,” which then became a “confirmed attack on the United States.” And under those circumstances, not only is that completely fine, that’s completely necessary. But not everything is breaking news. Not everything needs to be dished out to the public on a minute-by-minute basis, particularly when it involves analysis and opinion. There’s a danger in that. New information gives new meaning and context to something old.

NPR and CNN know that. They each posted articles within the first half hour of the debate entitled “Economy Takes Center Stage in FInal Debate,” and “McCain, Obama Debate their Tax Plans,” respectively. Now, at 12:55am, I am unable to find these articles on their websites.  It seems they updated the articles, and retitled them after apparently realizing that their original ways of conceiving the debate were inaccurate.
I remember learning, in elementary school, about a Native American culture that didn’t speak unless there was something essential to say. There was no small talk, no blabbering, no thinking out-loud.  Just silence, until there was something well thought out and meaningful to say.  I think there’s something to that.

Experiment: Live-Blogging the Final Prez Debate

October 15th, 2008 by Carla Murphy

I live-blogged from 9:04 MCT (that’s my computer time) till 10:32 MCT.  Highlights are here; full commentary on my personal blog, SeeMurphy.  Final comments are about Michelle Obama in that hip-hugging dress.  I’m still making up my mind about writing like this… it’s fun for me.  But, is it fun or helpful for you, the reader? [UPDATE: Joe the plumber is real. But he's not a licensed plumber. And his name isn't Joe.]

9:04: McCain, Americans are innocent victims of Wall Street greed.  Really? It’s never helpful, if you’re a grown-up, for others to absolve you when even you know you’ve been wrong.

9:08: McCain’s looking into the camera after asking Obama a question about increasing Joe the Plumber’s taxes.  I don’t really want the candidate to tell me what they’re gonna do for me.  I want them to talk to each other.

9:11: Is Joe the plumber a real person? Hi Joe.  Betcha wish you had a name like Barack now, huh.

9:13: Ask McCain how we’re going to pay off the trillion dollar national debt if we don’t raise taxes?

9:14: “Living beyond our means”–that’s 2008’s most memorable phrase

9:15: Schieffer means business.  Just cut in on Obama not answering fast enough on which programs he’ll cut.

9:19: Obama sounds like he actually reads the reports that come across his table.  Earmarks account for 1/2 of 1% of the budget? Or was that 1/2 of .1% of the budget?  Either way, the man reads!

9:20: My roommate just said, “McCain’s getting very sassy.” In response to McCain telling Obama if he wanted to run against G Bush, he should’ve run against him 4 years ago.

9:24: McCain’s environmental record.  One of the “positives” Obama has is that he has no record for me to look back and say, No, you didn’t.  McCain doesn’t have that luxury.

9:25: McCain, stop talking about the doggone town hall debates… “we could’ve done 10 of ‘em by now.”  Jeez, you sound like a stood up date.

9:29: This is a vigorous debate? Obama, get outta here with that.

9:30: OK McCain, stop with the Obama spending more money on negative ads.  He’s got more money to spend.  It’s the percentages that count.

9:31: Oooh, wow, “When my name was mentioned… people saying stuff like “Terrorist” and “Kill me.” That’s Obama talking! Schieffer: ask Obama what it’s like to hear this?  What it’s been like for how he explains it to his daughters?

9:38: “Those are the people, Dems and Repubs who have shaped my ideas…” — Obama

9:39: McCain, let it go.  What can you win with the Ayers and ACORN link?

9:41: See this week’s New Yorker interview on how Biden came to accept the VP offer.

9:45: McCain, “We’re seeing Iraqis uniting as Iraqis…” — Huh?

9:46: Obama comes across like he’s thinking on the spot and processing information in place.  McCain comes across like he’s giving talking points.

9:47: McCain, Where’re you planning to build those 45 nuclear plants?

9:48: This debate is setting up some measurements for success in 2012.  How much has the country reduced its dependence on foreign oil? is one.

9:53: I’m checking out TNC’s live-blogging too

9:53: I’m drifting.  I heard “Peruvian” and now I’m listening at “automakers.”

9:55: Obama’s cracking up at McCain’s “sitting down without preconditions” line.  Like, full mouthed toothy grin.  Hilarious.

10:00: McCain, We’re back to Joe again!  Dang, what about Latisha? And Hakim?  Mike!

10:00: Obama, “I’m happy to talk to you too Joe if you’re out there.” LOL.  Obama’s not a disser. He’s a smart-ass.

10:03: Now McCain’s talking to Joe.  Joe’s a star!  Go Joe!  First of all, how many Joe’s are there out there?  That ‘Joe’ tactic works if that type’s in the overwhelming majority but what happens if he’s not.  McCain and Obama, by going along with McCain’s thread, are leaving out a lot of people.

10:12: God, I’ve heard enough about the abortion stuff.  If we’re talking about Supreme Court, a question for McCain would be, how can you in good conscience appoint someone who disagrees with the beliefs of most American women?  For Obama, how can you be feel comfortable nominating liberal justices when most of the country is likely moderate or conservative?

10:17: I also like Ambinder’s live-blogging

10:18: Dude, I stopped listening 5 minutes ago.

10:18: McCain, since when do the worse performing schools get the most money?  For New Yorkers, Brownsville gets more money per student than Westchester?  I agree that throwing money at the problem isn’t the only answer but this annoyed me.

10:26: McCain’s sarcasm is unattractive.  Did I say that because I’m a woman? I bet there’s gonna be a poll asking that question and giving a gender breakdown of the responses.

10:30: “Go vote now, it’ll make you feel big and strong.” Schieffer.

10:32: Before I sign off, Dahhhhhh-mmmmmm, Michelle in that dress.  And I’m straight!

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Just Another Debate Post

October 3rd, 2008 by Kate Nocera

Like many of my colleagues I attended a party last night to watch the Vice Presidential debate. The crowd was a group of liberal New Yorkers, there to boo and bemoan Sarah Palin, and pray that Joe Biden remained relatively gaffe-less. 

   The host of the party created a “Sarah Palin Bingo” card, where every time Palin said one of her catch phrases (Joe Sixpack, referring to John Mcain as a Maverick, using a folksy story) a chip was placed down on the scorecard. It took maybe 20 minutes before someone screamed BINGO! and the game was over. 

 

 

 

Here is Matt Burke, 37 talking about bingo, and his expectations for the debate:

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There were boos and cheers and even some tears. The debate seemed to conjure the best and the worst in us. 

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Jonah Burke, the host of the party, felt that Sarah Palin had done nothing to impress him, despite sounding more competent than she had sounded in previous interviews. A fervent Obama supporter, Jonah’s only complaint with Biden had to do with the state of his hair.

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Not everyone who attended the party was as partisan as it’s host was. Mikkel Hogp is a journalist from Denmark. He was delighted to watch the debate with some of his American friends, and was able to watch Sarah Palin with a more unbiased perspective.

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Mikkel went on to talk about some uniquely European perspectives on the candidates.

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Thoughts about the Debate?

October 1st, 2008 by

By Maya J. Pope-Chappell

Sen. Barack Obama (D), right, looks at Sen. John McCain as he makes a point Friday during the first US presidential debate, at the University of Mississippi in Oxford, Miss. (Jim Bourg/AP)

Debaters: Sen. Barack Obama (D), right, looks at Sen. John McCain as he makes a point Friday during the first US presidential debate, at the University of Mississippi in Oxford, Miss. (Jim Bourg/AP)

In the first presidential debate before November’s election, Sen. Barack Obama and Sen. John McCain battled it out over ways to handle the economic crises, government spending, national security and foreign policy.  I caught up with four people, asking what they thought of the Obama-McCain Debate.  Here are their thoughts.

George Lawrence, 43 is from Brooklyn.  He holds down two jobs, supports Obama and will be voting for the first time this November.

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Laresha Franks, 24 is a student and second-time voter in a presidential election.  She’s an Obama supporter.

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Antonio Thompson, 25 is a grant writer and musician.  He is a democrat voting for the second time.

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Amber Morse, 25 is a social worker from California.  This November, she will cast her 2nd presidential election vote for Obama.

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What are your thoughts?